No Name Calling On Wildomar Magazine….

…JUST HONEST DEBATE OVER IDEAS

As the Comment Wars rage on Patch, Wildomar Magazine continues to present a simple exchange of ideas between John Garrett and Steve Beutz, as follows:

This email is from John Garrett, is his  response to Steve Beutz’ previous email retort:

 Please post this version if you can. Thanks:

” Steve’s explanations are consistent with what I observed, and I was careful to qualify my inferences as inferences. We can’t know the thinking behind others’ overt behavior. (Is everyone with me on this?)
 
I struggled to not let later events rewrite my memory (e.g., Steve’s opposition to incorporation and to the parks assessment). I hope Steve has exercised similar scrutiny.
 
Regarding Steve’s humor, which I enjoyed:
Steve: The neighborhood where I live is named “Parkside” Estates, not “Collegeside” Estates – enough said.
 
I sympathize with this. “Parkside” does imply there would have been a park. I welcome any advice on how I can contribute to making that park a reality, seven years ago as well as today. Regarding “Estates” I trust that part of the name has met Steve’s expectations, as there’s nothing I can do there.
 
Considering Steve’s presence in Wildomar politics, I welcome any public record of his efforts to make the park of Park Estates a reality. I’m inclined to believe that he has made the statements I seek, but I ask because I’m undecided as to whether breaking up the parks assessment was a means to that end or intended as a punishment.
 
Steve raises a good question about the RDA and Marna O’Brien:
Steve: I am informed that the good people of Lakeland Village are still trying to figure out how millions of dollars of RDA funds legally mandated to be used to combat blight conditions within their RDA boundaries were used instead to refurbish Marna O’Brien Park, which is not even located within the Lakeland Village Wildomar Redevelopment Project Area. Perhaps a future expose for Zak Turango?
 
Actually, our minutes are public record, so anyone “still trying to figure out how [money is spent]” may be not worth reaching out to, but I’m willing to help. And, I did offer my help, as a member of the RDA, to Steve at our first meeting. I was willing to see if the RDA had any means to assist in his dispute. The RDA has since used its voice on other issues in the community. That Steve would suggest an expose reveals more of him than it will of the RDA.
 
Let’s put forth a testable hypothesis. I may be an idealist fool or Steve may be working too hard to find fault in collective action. (Actually, I admit to being an idealistic fool, but the question is whether it’s to an extent that is detrimental to the community.)
 
The RDA committee I’m on was elected so that the community can have a say in what is considered blight and in how to correct it. We decided that shuttered parks were a condition of blight (which raises the question of who is fighting or promoting blight).  
 
Marna O’Brien is a half block beyond the RDA boundary. However, the RDA can invest in projects outside of its boundary if such projects benefit the RDA. For example, we are reviewing sites for a new fire station that will service the RDA zone but likely reside outside the boundary. If this is inappropriate, it’s not too late for citizens to intervene. (Before you answer, please know that if there were a fire outside the RDA, I’m Ok if you want to call the station we’ll have paid for.) The same can be said for community centers, flood infrastructure, roads, signals, and even the water quality of Lake Elsinore.
 
But back to the park… RDA residents near Mission Trails drive southwest to reach Marna O’Brien; RDA residents near Central drive northwest; and those near Grand drive northeast. We have the park surrounded! (See map.) A park with Marna O’Brien’s services is a benefit to the RDA and the greater community. Forgive the cliche but we all rise together — but I guess we can add “fail together, too”
 
If there is a flaw or violation in the RDA’s support for Marna O’Brien, please charge ahead and investigate, but make sure you can get the whole story before undermining people’s confidence in collective action. I’m available to anyone who wants to know more about the activities of the RDA since I’ve been a member.
 
Contact me at my blog http://www.brightstarswildomar.blogspot.com/
 
jg”
 
Perhaps we can, as a  community, learn from Steve Beutz and John Garrett in how to discuss/debate issues in a civil manner.
 
If not, then we should just all call each other poo-poo heads and be done with civil discussion.
 
Comments can be made to zakturango@excite.com.
 
However, if Zak Turango resorted to perpetual civility, he would likely lose most of his readers. So the current “bubble of civility” is no more than that, a bubble.
 
Vapid, fatuous, feckless politicians must be mocked on the pages of Wildomar Magazine. Especially if they are poo-poo heads.

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